Where I live (Switzerland) we opened a debate in class. What motivates a person to vote for Trump in the USA. The idea is not to criticize but to have a constructive discussion. If anyone is interested, we can open a discussion here.

Through our media in Europe, we get the impression that his strategy is to criticize and release enormity that activates the emotions of voters who no longer seek to be critical of the content.

He’s a criminal, a rapist, a woeful businessman and serial cheater who can’t stop lying He’s got no policies and just doesn’t want to go to jail so is happy to be the project 2025 peoples puppet He’s dangerous People only want to vote for him because he allows them to be their worst selves - you can be ignorant, racist, rude… if the national leader can why can’t you? And they vote for him out of fear about his lies about immigrants and because they think because he’s rich he can save economies despite his business models often relying on milking things, taking the money and filing bankruptcy (That’s what I learned in school, we did the same topic lol - but it checks out)

I think it’s a pretty good analysis. A little rough but good. I think we can unanimously say that it is dangerous for democracy.

He is openly sexist, and uses social media and tv to throw accusations without any proof. Most of them are completely silly but people believe them. Trump alone is not a danger. The half of the americans who worship him are.

Because using social media and people’s internet history it’s easy to find out what people care about, and target advertisements to those topics Trump doesn’t need to be good, he just needs to make his opponent sound worse. Basics of politics now it seems

Taking advantage of an hurting population desperate for change, someone who goes against the establishment living in a two party system. Add the history of racism of the US and that it is an highly religious country it’s not hard to see how he was able to scam a large enough portion of the electorate.

Some people seem to have such loyalty to their party that they will vote for anyone. There was a joke in the UK that certain people would vote for a chimpanzee if it wore the right coloured rosette. But I have also seen posts on-line from people who have said that Trump is so unsuitable as a president that they have reconsidered their allegiance. But I also think Trump has been tapping into people’s prejudices and saying whatever they want to hear in the hope of being elected, unconstrained by either evidence or what he has said on a previous occasion.

Exactly Trump has no policies… probably not even “concepts of” policies He’s just trying to stay out of jail and will lying and evangelize to his poorly educated sheep

Fascinating points, but I’ll say this. The candidates on both sides are terrible and that fact is undeniable. The population of the United States is approximately 345 million people. The two running are the best they have? One is a diabolical human being and the other couldn’t find her way out of a cardboard box and was installed without process they have in place in that country. Think about that for a moment … it is gross. All empires throughout history have fallen. I suspect it is the United States turn and either one of these clowns fits the bill to help the process along.

Since I am too young vote, I tend to stay out of politics , our country is not longer a great nation and will leave it at that

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Falcons_11D

He won. She lost. Live with it!

BJade

Falcons_11D let’s hope people can live with Trump in charge.

With kicking out all ‘immigrants’ (bye to all non native Americans???) and wanting only Americans made products. They may not have any money, food or people to ‘live with it’.

HannahW

Falcons_11D

Like he ‘lived with it’ last time? You can have a go at people angry or upset about Trump winning when they storm the Capitol building in an attempt to overturn the result or spend the next four years whining about election fraud.

kyle07

And Nazis are already marching in public there, wearing masks and waving swastika flags
Vote for a Nazi and get Nazis I guess

Falcons_11D

kyle07 I don’t see any Nazis marching with swastika flags marching in the streets of my town or any other cities and towns in the USA since the election. What I have seen though is anti-semetic protestors carrying Palestine and Hamas flags calling for the destruction of Israel and Jewish students. This sems to me to be the Nazis that you are referring too. After all Hitler did call for the destruction of Jews everywhere with his “Final Solution of the Jewish Question”.

Sapio

kyle07 Three groups wear masks when they protest/riot: Nazis/White supremacists, ANTIFA and the pro-Hamas crowd.

BlackParadePixie

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BlackParadePixie

Yes, I call my opponent Hitler and then immediately invite him to dinner and my home after he wins.

Totally a nazi.

kyle07

BlackParadePixie Trump has a long history of admiring Hitler, it’s a known thing.
He’s on video banging on about genetics and what he thinks are superior genetics / ancestry - how he’s proud of his powerful German blood
He even more recently said about how he should be a dictator and wished he’d had generals like Hitler’s… Couple all that with this racism and it’s not a surprise the white supremacist groups all adore him and vote for him

It’s scary stuff
It’s what happened before, they all felt so much safer congregating in public

BlackParadePixie

It’s not a.known thing. It’s completely made up by fear mongering morons.

BlackParadePixie

And pedophiles vote for democrats, so what?

People are free to vote for who they want.

White supremacists have been congregating in public for decades. This is nothing new.

kyle07

BlackParadePixie ehhh they really don’t though
The Republicans have the pedos too, if you compare how many republicans have child sex offenses compared to Dems it’s night n day

And hello, Attorney General Matt Gaetz thanks to Epsteins’s bestie Trump - it’s not even funny

BlackParadePixie

I’m not even going to argue about this anymore. It’s so ridiculous its insulting. the ultimate low hanging fruit.

kyle07

BlackParadePixie fair enough, that’s fine
It’s not low hanging fruit though, look at how hate crimes went up during the Trump admin, he enables his fellow racists

BlackParadePixie

kyle07 is it?

Do you have actual statistics to prove that?

kyle07

BlackParadePixie lots of them out there
Different ways to look at it
White males who claim to be Christian are the highest statistical group for child sex offenders - and also make up the vast majority of republicans, but that’s not a fair way to look at it

There are simply the convictions and investigations and actions - Trump supported Roy Moore despite all the allegations and of course Matt Gaetz - the GOP, Trump GOP especially always puts party before the people, so instead of saying “hey this guy is questionable, let’s investigate before we embarrass ourselves…” they embarrass themselves
If there are any anecdotes like that for then Dems they’re hard to find, they take the high road too often

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/04/from-hastert-to-gaetz-lets-talk-about-republicans-and-sex-crimes.html

Simply Trump is a rapist. He was confirmed to have committed sexual assault and the GOP still made him their guy, they’re the party of immorality and injustice

kyle07

Falcons_11D look at the image above from Columbus Ohio chanting about “n words”, similar looking guys with the red on black swastika flag and red masks were seen outside a production of Anne Frank’s diary

I agree with you, the pro pali bigots are vile, these guys are vile too - they’re like the Trumpy boys who marched in Charlottesville chanting Jews will not replace us etc
Trump only cares about Israel politically, because white nationalists reeeeally hate/are scared of Muslims

Zwaga

Trump won. So it’s over, baby blue.

Falcons_11D

They still want to impeach him using the Insurrection Clause in the 14th. Amendment.

BlackParadePixie

Falcons_11D didn’t they already try that?

Lily

Falcons_11D I don’t know why they didn’t invoke that already to keep him from running? It’s right there

Zwaga

Trump has been impeached so many times, I don’t think it bothers him anymore. Maybe he even thinks it’s one of those weird formal political traditions that doesn’t make sense to him. So it’s probably like with unwanted gifts: It’s not the gift that counts, but the intention behind the gift.

I wish them good luck impeaching Trump anyway.

Sapio

Zwaga While it’s true Trump was impeached twice (B. Clinton was impeached once), the former was acquitted both times.

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